Listen back to the post-derby Canary Call on BBC Radio Norfolk, and three minutes and 46 seconds in, host Rob Butler asks the very question everyone involved in Norwich City should be asking right now.

"Can you see why fans will look above [manager Liam Manning] and say, he hasn't got the players, he hasn't got the tools?"

People will point the finger at manager Manning for that first derby defeat in 16 years. He is not blameless, for sure.

But, as former owner Delia Smith will tell you, it takes more than one ingredient to make the perfect recipe. And eyes must turn up and down from Manning's position to ask why it is going so wrong for a huge club like Norwich City?

Aside from the 188-second response from Oscar Schwartau to equalise, you rarely felt someone else in yellow would turn effort into endeavour.

Add to that the unhappiness from fans being moved from their lifelong Carrow Road seats as part of a stadium redevelopment plan, and I left Portman Road just asking myself one question.

What is going on at Norwich City...